Showing posts with label 12 CIvic Si. Show all posts
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Friday, December 23, 2011

Motor Trend: 2012 Honda Civic Si Sedan Review

December 22, 2011
By Carlos Lago Photos Michael Shaffer

Two hundred dollars won't buy you an iPad. It won't even pay for a half-decent coffee maker. But in the case of the Civic Si, $200 pays for two more doors, an easier-to-access trunk, and more passenger and cargo volume. Most importantly, those extra doors and enlarged capacities of the 2012 Honda Civic Si sedan come without sacrificing the fun-to-drive nature found in the Si coupe, or the performance. It's the same fun, now comfortably seating four.

In its transformation from coupe to sedan, the Civic Si grows 1.8 inches longer and 1.5 inches taller. Interior dimensions, as you might expect, grow most notably for rear passengers. Rear seat headroom expands to 1.9 inches, legroom to 5.4 inches, and shoulder room 1.1 inches. These increases mean little to overall weight. On our scales, the Si sedan weighed in a negligible 13 pounds heavier than the 2012 Civic Si coupe we tested, and its front/rear weight balance, at 61/39 percent, remains the same.

Also identical is the sedan's figure eight lap time. At 26.4 seconds, it matches the best lap we've seen from the Si coupe. Disappointingly, the sedan also retains the same understeer. During limit handling, the Si doesn't offer many choices; its rear tires resolutely follow the fronts. With lateral acceleration at a 0.88 g average, grip is admirable, but we found ourselves longing for some personality. Once the front starts plowing, your only option is to sit and wait for the understeer to end.

And that's with the summer tires. If you enjoy driving (and of course you do, you're buying a Si), avoid the all-seasons. During a back-to-back test with both tires on our figure eight, the Michelin Pilot Exalto summer rubber turned a 0.4-second quicker lap time than the all seasons. That lap time difference may seem slight, but the difference behind the wheel was most telling. The all-seasons exacerbated the understeer, squealing too easily and barricading you from fun.

Buy this car with summer tires, even if you don't plan on racing around two skidpads as fast as possible all day. Under normal driving, on city streets, the Si is an agreeable car to drive quickly. Its steering, though light, feels nicely precise. The clutch engages positively, and the gearbox slinks between gears as fast as you want it to. The absurdly short 4.76 final drive means you get to row that delightful shift knob frequently. The gearing also pays dividends in acceleration, where the Si sedan reaches 60 mph in 6.4 seconds and the quarter mile in 14.9 seconds at 94.8 mph. Lugging around town, you can get into fourth as early as 25 mph, something rare for performance-orientated Hondas. When approaching intersections, I frequently shifted into second when I should've shifted into third.

While the shifter is tidy and quick, we can’t say the same for the engine. This 2.4-liter mill hangs on to revs every time you depress the clutch between shifts, as if it were suspended in zero gravity. So you have to wait (and wait some more) to engage the next gear, which makes smooth shifting difficult. Honda says it is the result of chasing smooth deceleration when the throttle is lifted, an attempt to minimize torque shock. But to us, waiting for the revs to fall is frustrating because it is so at odds with the attitude of the rest of the car.

There's another oddity: You can't option summer tires with navigation, as you can with the coupe. Word from Honda is that the take rate on that combination in the previous generation was too low. At $24,675, even the most expensive, nav-equipped Si sedan costs $3590 less than a comparably equipped GTI and $2255 less than a comparably equipped Mazdaspeed3. That difference easily covers a set of wheels and summer tires. Those all seasons? Save 'em for winter.

The Si sedan encapsulates the same things we enjoy from the coupe (and the things we aren't particularly fond of) without diminishing any of the performance. Understeer at the limit and rev hang notwithstanding, the Si sedan still delivers the driving satisfaction we've come to expect from the badge. For $200, we're still hunting for a downside. And a better deal.

Source;
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/1112_2012_honda_civic_si_sedan_first_test/

Thursday, December 22, 2011

Consumer Reports Gives the Honda Civic Si a “Recommended” Rating

Just when Honda announced it is developing a revised Civic for the 2013MY that will be launched in the U.S. in late 2012, Consumer Reports, the publication that started the storm of negative publicity on Honda’s compact model, has awarded the Si version with a “Recommended” on its latest report.

CR still stands by its original verdict on the base 2012 Civic when it stated, “while other models like the Hyundai Elantra have gotten better after being redesigned, the Honda Civic has dropped so much that now it ranks near the bottom of its category.”

The difference is that the model tested this time is the sportier Si version fitted with the more powerful 2.4-liter engine. According to the test results, it earned a notably better score than the basic model and as a result, CR says it now recommends the Si.

Most of the improvements are due to the 201HP engine, which CR says offers “terrific acceleration” at high rpm and at the same time, more low-end torque, as well as the "slick shifting" six-speed manual gearbox. The publication also notes that the Si returned "a very good" combined fuel economy of 29 mpg.

On the other hand, CR repeats that the Si suffers from the same cheap plastics, harsh ride, noisy cabin and vague steering as the basic versions, which placed the base Civic at second-to-last place. The Civic Si ranked 9th out of 11 tested models in Consumer Reports' sporty car category.

"The Civic Si has a great powertrain, but it needs a better car wrapped around it," said David Champion, sr. director of Consumer Reports Automotive Test Center.

Source;
http://www.carscoop.blogspot.com/2011/12/consumer-reports-gives-honda-civic-si.html

Thursday, November 3, 2011

2012 Honda Civic Si Wows At SEMA Show

Limited-edition Honda Factory Performance kit unveiled and Honda Performance Development reveals new grassroots racing program for the Civic Si
11/01/2011 - LAS VEGAS
Seven modified 2012 Civic Si Coupes and Sedans are featured prominently in the Honda booth at the 2011 SEMA Show, which opens today. The all-new 2012 Civic Si Coupe and Civic Si Sedan emphasize the performance potential of the Civic lineup and represent great platforms for vehicle personalization. Several significant vehicles are being unveiled at the show, including a 2012 Civic Si Coupe equipped with a limited-edition Honda Factory Performance™ (HFP™) package, the Honda Performance Development, Inc. (HPD) Compass360 Racing HPD 2012 Civic Si Coupe Racecar, the Accord Coupe HFP Concept and several vehicles equipped with Honda Genuine Accessories.

“The Honda Civic was instrumental in the first import-tuner movement in the U.S. during the ‘80s,” said Bruce Smith, vice president of Service and Technical Operations for American Honda Motor Co., Inc. “The all-new Civic Si builds on that proud history by offering inspiring performance, improved fuel economy and a great platform for personalization.”

Show-goers will get the first look at the 2012 Civic Si Coupe fitted with a limited-edition HFP package. Limited to only 500 complete kits and on sale today at Honda dealers in the U.S., the package includes: high-performance springs, reducing ride height by 15 mm; high-performance dampers tuned for enhanced road handling and decreased body roll; 18x7 inch HFP Alloy Wheels; full HFP aerodynamic body kit; HFP carpet floor mats; red ambient interior illumination; and, HFP emblems. All of the painted parts will come color-matched to each of the seven available Civic Si Coupe colors.

After unveiling the Compass360 Racing HPD 2012 Civic Si Coupe Racecar, HPD provided details about its new racing performance parts program for the all-new Civic Coupe. Earlier this year, HPD began sales of Civic bodies-in-white, also on display. For builders of racecars, starting their build with a body-in-white represents significant cost and labor savings when compared to the purchase and conversion of a fully-equipped production car. Sales of the body-in-white began in July, and HPD has delivered a number to licensed race teams thus far, priced at $3,500 each. Additionally, HPD will soon offer HPD-designed parts and branded racing components for the new Civic through the Honda Racing Line. These racing parts are tailored for use in the SCCA World Challenge and Grand Am's Continental Tire Sports Car Challenge. They will be available early in 2012, and full details and pricing will be available at that time.

Combining the expertise of HPD and the styling and performance history of HFP, the Accord Coupe V6 HFP Concept features a full suite of currently-available HFP components. HPD guided the creation of the “concept,” which includes a supercharger and performance air intake and exhaust systems. Building upon a stock 3.5-liter V6 engine, the supercharged engine is estimated to produce 335 hp and 285 ft. lbs of torque (up 64 hp and 34 ft. lbs vs. stock car). This vehicle was modified to demonstrate the performance potential of the Accord V6 coupe and to gauge consumer interest. Honda has no current production plans for the concept.

Sporting available Honda Genuine Accessories, the 2012 Civic Si Sedan shows that performance and style can come with four doors. It features 18x7 inch HFP alloy wheels, all-season floor mats, trunk tray, cargo net, cargo hook and splash guards. All Honda Genuine Accessories, including HFP components, offer a 3-year/36,000 mile warranty like the Civic itself, if they are purchased and installed at the time of new vehicle purchase, and are engineered to be fully compatible with each Honda vehicle.

Nestled amongst two previously-seen Honda-modified CR-Z sport hybrids, the HPD CR-Z Hybrid R Concept and the CR-Z with MUGEN accessories, is a stand-alone HPD CR-Z engine concept equipped with a supercharger. This 1.5-liter engine concept builds upon HPD’s experience with the turbocharged HPD CR-Z Racer that competed at the 25 Hours of Thunderhill last year and represents HPD’s continued exploration of the performance potential of the CR-Z.

Reaching out to the import community, Honda invited three independent vehicle tuners to build and display their Civic Si concepts at the SEMA Show. Tuners were asked to push the limits of performance and style with their builds, and the vehicles on display demonstrate the personalized potential of the Si Coupe and Sedan. Following last year’s amazing CR-Z build, Bisimoto Engineering delivered a 1004 hp version of the Civic Si Coupe. Having previously built two generations of Fit project vehicles, Tjin Edition brings its own take on the Civic Si Sedan, showing that style and performance can coexist with kids and a family. And making its Honda SEMA Show debut, Fox Marketing pulled out all of the stops to create a wide-body, turbo-charged version of the Civic Si Coupe.

Vehicles on Display at the Honda Booth
From American Honda Motor Co., Inc.
2012 Civic Si Coupe with limited-edition HFP™ package
2012 Civic Si Sedan with Honda Genuine Accessories
2012 Accord Coupe V6 HFP™ Concept
2011 CR-Z with MUGEN Accessories
2012 Civic Si Coupe modified by blink-182 for the Honda Civic Tour

Historic Civic models from the American Honda Collection
2000 Civic Si Challenge winner (by Superstreet magazine)
1975 Civic 3dr

From Honda Performance Development, Inc.
2012 HPD Compass
360 World Challenge Spec Civic Si racecar
2012 Civic Coupe body-in-white
2011 CR-Z Hybrid R Concept HPD CR-Z engine concept with supercharger (engine only)

Aftermarket Project Vehicles
Bisimoto Engineering 2012 Civic Si Coupe
Fox Marketing 2012 Civic Si Coupe
Tjin Edition 2012 Civic Si Sedan

Source;
http://www.hondanews.com/channels/corporate-headlines/releases/2012-honda-civic-si-wows-at-sema-show
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